sten mattson
1st Praetorian Guard
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:46:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:
Actually, Missiles are still everything but bad. They still deliver good damage out to extreme ranges. It's just not broken anymore as it has been before. For the T2 missiles, all I know is that before the patch, people didn't use them against non-battleship rats, regarding pve. No big diference now.
Btw: railguns, beam lasers, artillery barely use T2 ammo, the faction is just better. Autocannons, using RF close range ammo all day over T2. Pulse lasers are used with scorch/navy multifrequency.
So if T2 missiles isn't the only type of missile you'll ever need, then deal with it. Drakes/Tengus still reach out to 50-80km depending on skills. That should be more than enough for a medium weapon system.
Phantom Buff: T2 missiles don't seem to increase your sig radius anymore.
i love it how people still compare HML to short range turrets
i can only speak for lazors , since i only fly amarr.
-to get best versatility with beams , you need both t2 crystals (aurora for range , gleam for damage and tracking) and a whole set of faction crystals in between. i personally use with beam omen/coercer/retribution , in order of range:
-Aurora
-navy standard
-navy xray
-navy multi
-gleam
thats 5 sets of ammo , all with a different purpose
now back to HML
you say they hit with less damage than short range weapon , but consider at what range you are doing that kind of damage!
concrete example:
-beam harbinger with aurora does 300 dps at 70k+15k (2 HS, one damage rig, 2 TE, all lvl V char on EFT)
-cal navy scourge HML drake does 332 dps at 62k (2 BCS , no range or damage rig, all lvl V char on EFT)
what can we learn from this? YES draeks do less damage with HMLs than a close range system , but does comparable damage than beam lazors , which is also a long range system!
for comparable range a pulse harbinger does 400 dps at 20k maximum.
nevermind the tracking issues too , just by MWDing for transversal on the barbinger, NVM the other issues with the ships themselves. just stop comparing long range missiles (HML) to short rage weaponry (Pulses , AC)!
EDIT: misread your post -_- , but the fact stands , stop comparing HMLs to short range weaponry! they do still decent damage at extreme ranges, just not as much as before
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